A locked rear end will increase the likelyhood of a spin out or your. To truly appreciate the capabilities of four wheel drive, youre going to want some form of limited slip, or better yet, a locking differential in the front and rear axles. Relentless sliders, pelfreybuilt skids, relentless high clearance rear bumper. There are many aftermarket brake systems offered for both. If you just drive it back and forth to the trail, it it would be alot more bearable. This can cause the rear of the vehicle to spin out. Moser offers a housing end that uses the small 9 bearing and works with most 8. Discussion in the hokey ass message board started by kooldeuce, dec 11, 2005.
Chadillac2000s 2008 5i road warrior daily driver build. I know about the tires chirping around corners ans so forth, but is there any other reason this is not a good idea. I heard a gm 12 bolt mini spool can be made to fit in a toyota 9. The only thing dangerous about a spooled rear end is if you dont. Commonly found in high torque drag race applications, spool lockers have found their way into the offroad world due to their simple and robust design. Discussion in vn vp holden commodore 1988 1993 started by. In fact, i have to purposely dip deep into the throttle before the tial shows itself. First time i hammered it out, bondod it up, and touch up painted it. All the exotics that run the autobahn in germany in excess of 150mph all have some type of lsd from the factory.
I had average 205s on the rear and wasnt driving to the conditions. As far as the rear end being spooled, as i said, the tires would wear out quicker and screech around sharp turns. It would be the last time id have to use the bavarian technic. A spool has no moving partsthe ring gear bolts to it and the axles go in the sides and it locks both axles full time. Limited slips vs differential lockers vs spools randys worldwide. Its name is derived from the very nature of a spool, or a reel, in which each axle shaft is attached to a fixed onepiece spool. We do not recommend the spool option for daily driven vehicles. Automatic lockers, by their very nature, may engage in an. And of course, a spool can be installed in place of all of them. I just put new valvoline fully synthetic 75w140 gear oil in new 8. Trac locposi vs locker vs full spool 460 ford forum. Vehicleengine search vehicleengine search makemodel search. What its like daily driving a welded spool diff youtube. The original rear end slid out in the rain with the factory 3.
Dont put a spool in a junk yard rear end rebuild it and throw one in for them money you can. Hey sum, my daily driver is a 57 chevy 210 with a 327, 700r4 and a 3. The rear endgearaxle is called a differential because it causes the motion of the drive shaft to go in a different direction than what it started out in. My 85 cj7 is isnt being driven daily, but it does see alot of pavement. The locked diff made the rear end get loose like i hit ice in the curve. My daily driver has a locker in the rear too, ive had spools in my last 3 wheelin rigs and they have all driven fine.
I get a lot of questions about my rear end specifically. This is a setup i can enjoy far more as a daily driver. Mini spool question got a question for you guys, i was looking into getting my rear end fixed so it would be positive traction. A mini spool drives exactly like a full spool does, but they are not as strong as a full spool and do not add any extra support to the ring gear like a spool does. Im trying to decide on using a spool or a detroit in the rear, and would like advice and proscons from people who have run both. Im not saying a spool is an ideal choice, but its cheaper than a posi unit, and is perfectly safe. I was told to just put a mini spool in and this would take care of it and its also very cost effective. Little taste of what its like to drive a drift daily. Since the spool is made from a single forging there are no small parts to break and no clutch plates to wear out. I would like to see some opinions of whether a mini spool or just welding the gears to lock it would be a good option to go with. I do not use my sami as a daily driver and i only run 29 inch tires, not sure if it matters anyway. Im confidant enough my rear end is getting narrowed and the spool is on order tomrrow. I run a spool and daily drive my 92 4runner on 35 kevlars its not bad at all just rotate tires lol.
I think the drag radials in the rain was the cause of the drifting, not the spool. The cowl filters no longer let in a whoosh any time the gas pedal is released. My chevy ii was a race car when i got it and had a 9 with a spool. I only installed a rear bumper after flattening the exhaust into the passenger side rear quarter panel twice. A welded differential keeps both of the back wheels on the car spinning at the same speed, but since the wheel on the outside is typically spinning faster than the. Essentially keeping my front open diff and my rear openlsd until i flip the switch. Limited slip differentials or locking differentials, aka lockers. I am not considering a spool in that this is a street car. I have driven a lsd type rear end many times in 25 to 100 milers and the slowest speed was a little over 120mph without any problems, so not all authorities here on yahoo answers are knowledgeable. Mw carries a specially formulated sae 85140 gear oil made for mark williams enterprises by torco that works superbly in both spool and locking differential applications. You will have a much stronger rear end with the 30 spline axles. Spool lockers are a fulltime, always engaged locker. A third type of traction device for an axleused for offroad or racing purposes onlyis a spool. Open differential vs spool differential differences.
Is it tolerable and does it significantly decrease tread life. Quick video addressing the guys that are asking me if they should run a welded diff in their daily driver or not. I was looking for something to replace the aussie locker in the rear axle, but with a small price tag. Whichever way you go, its important to keep the rear end properly lubricated.
How to build a spidertrax spider 9 rear end how to install a ford 8. Spools front and rear 7379 ford truck ford f series. In more extreme offroad situations like racing many drivers opt for a spool instead of a differential in their rear axles. It may wear tires out quicker but the peace of mind that when my car starts to spin and it does offten that both tires are spinning the same speed. Ive driven for over 40 years with all of the above listed rearend types. Our spools are made from forged chromemoly steel, heat treated then finished machined. What could i expect from my 9 370 with a mini spool in it if i use it in my daily driving deuce. Also, the spool reacts the same every turn, every time. Rear end spools full and mini spools day motor sports. Your guide to lockers, limited slip differentials, and. Gm 12 bolt minispool install and poly performance sf. I understand its hard, since you can now do awesome ones, but your tyre rear is simply from that, not the type of diff. When setting up the rear in my 60 lark wagon 550 hp small block chevy, i thought about a spool.
I have a very soft rear supension and will hit on big bumps, and the front i relocated the upper arm mount so i allways have a negitive camber curve. My car is a daily driver and i was wondering if anybody has tried to run a spool on the street, ive heard the eat up tires and you have to constantly hear the rear tires chirping while going around corners. Detroit locker in daily driver f350 report page 2 ford truck. I rarely ever use 4x4 daily driving in winter with the spool, it just goes. Ive tried to demonstrate what you can expect from a mini spool for street. Who has ran a spool on a steet car, give me the pros and cons, it will not be a daily driver, just occasional use and some track time. If it is a daily driver, i would not spool either end. The car is my daily driver and i want to know how many others there are out there with mini spools in daily drivers and what i can. Fresno has declared a shelter in place but as an essential business we remain open due to the uncertainty surrounding coronavirus covid19, with health and safety being a top priority of both our employees and customers, we are doing our part in helping reduce the transmission of covid19 by closing our store front to the public until further notice. Recommended for daily driving, works well in ice, rain, mud and snow. If your zrx has leaf springs then this rear end will fit it. I have my old diff center siting on the bench with the gears removed and a mini spool in their place. The s10 rear end will have 30 spline axles and the camaro rear end has 28 spline axles, unless someone has upgraded it to 30 splines.
A spool locks both axle shafts together and allows for no differentiation in wheel speed. This is a daily driver but does its fair share of offroading and less the pleasant weather conditions. I want to lock my rear end but i do not want the noise that comes with the ratchet type lockers. Who drives with a spool on the street page 2 nonturbo. Anybody running a full spool in the rear of a daily driver.
For those people on a budget, there are minispools available for many rearend designs. Spool, mini spool, welded daily driver jeep wrangler forum. We carry both full and mini spools from trusted brands like protek. The truck will not be a daily driver but once its finished up, i suppose ill be driving it around quite often. The rear end slide was not unexpected by me, but it startled her, as it would any person unaccustomed to my car. The spool probably just exagerrated the problem lol. All currie 9inch third members are assembled by our inhouse experts with decades of rearend setup and assembly experience, so you can trust the finished product. Im considering buying a 9 rear that has a spool already install in it. There are cheap alternatives to a welded diff, mini spool but the danger while driving and potential for. A tractionaiding differential is one that greatly inhibits or eliminates any difference in wheel speed. Width axles part 5 how to remove spring perches with a torch install new spring perches how to shorten an axle housing how to build a spool on the cheap. Well when i went to summit to look them over they all say recommend use for dirt track or oval racing. Choose from a wide selection of rear end spools for race cars at day motor sports. I only partially agree due to the difficulty with keeping the rearend.
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